Showing posts with label Deserters. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Deserters. Show all posts

Saturday, January 14, 2012

Let's Send That Message Loud And Clear...

Recommended Transportation




Michael Coren

Canada must be Canada: We are not the North American version of Switzerland

...and start by deporting the current crop of deserters. There currently is no draft in the US and these people joined the military voluntarily.

Thursday, June 23, 2011

Send A Message Of Support To Our Soldiers...

Trust Canada’s troops before its politicians


Christie Blatchford: Canadian soldiers are better, more reliable and infinitely more trustworthy bearers of what is good in this country, and of the public trust, than Canadian political leaders

...by immediately deporting the USA deserters (cowards).

Saturday, November 13, 2010

No Surprise Here...

...isn't it the NDP who are pushing a private member's bill that would treat deserters from the US Army as conquering heros in eliminating conflicts between nations?

Liberals, NDP disagree over Harper plan for Afghanistan

The federal Liberals appear prepared to support a Canadian Armed Forces training mission in Afghanistan without a vote in the House of Commons, sparking outrage Friday from New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton

Don Martin: Staying on in Afghanistan dishonest … but right

...pull the troops and send in the war resistors, peaceniks, deserters, et al to do the training and negotiations with the Taliban. If these groups really believe the rhetoric they spew on a daily basis give them an opportunity to prove how much smarter they are than the "war mongers!" But having said that Harper should hold a vote or we will see the perogists come to life again and hold up the business of the country.









Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/#ixzz15A4z612f

Friday, November 12, 2010

Sunday, November 07, 2010

The Red Poppy Symbolizes The Protection...

* Of your right to kow tow to bullies
* Of your right to protect cowards and deserters
* Of your right to protest
* Of your right to wear a white poppy

Rex Murphy: Poppies show our regret at war’s horrors, not our love for it



Nathan Denette for National Post

In the tradition of Western poetry, flowers and flower imagery are inevitably associated with mortality. “Man is in love, and loves what vanishes,” is Yeats’ terse summary of our human condition. Nothing captures the bittersweet brevity, the “vanishingness” or our estate, better than the heart-stopping beauty and simultaneous fleetingness of flowers in bloom.

The gathering of flowers is itself a most enduring symbol of human mortality — we are “gathered” by accident, illness, war or, finally, time. Milton made the comparison explicit when he wrote of how fair “Proserpine, gathering flowers/ Herself a fairer flower, by gloomy Dis was gathered.” Read More »

Monday, November 01, 2010

This Will Be Seen As Justice...

...by the likes of Olivia Chow and others who support the deserters from the US military.

Omar Khadr to serve 8 years; jury recommended 40


A jury has decided that Canadian-born Omar Khadr should serve 40 years in prison after he pleaded guilty to war-crimes charges, but a plea deal will ensure he serves no more than eight years.

Don’t welcome back Khadr


By EZRA LEVANT, QMI Agency

When life gets you down, what do you think about to raise your spirits? What’s the “happy place” in your mind? Someone you love? Something you’ve done that makes you proud?

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Identifying Traitors And Patriots And The Purpose Of The Military......

...and let's not forget that at the present time it is a volunteer army and the purpose of the military is to defend and one of the perils is possible death.

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."
— General George S. Patton

"refusing orders, crossing borders": a report on the war resisters event in fort erie

US Appeals Court Overturns Stay On 'Gay Ban Order'? - 10 hours ago

Dan Choi Dan, a former US Army Lieutanant forcibly discharged after publicly revealing his gay orientatation, filed a fresh application Wednesday to ...

Sunday, October 17, 2010

SEND THEM HOME...

...THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR MILITARY DUTY AND BROKE THEIR OATH/PROMISE TO DEFEND THEIR COUNTRY.

Ottawa urged to ditch army-deserter policy


U.S. army deserters and their supporters on Saturday urged the Canadian government to jettison an immigration policy they say prejudices their cases and violates international refugee law

Friday, October 01, 2010

A Copy Of This Editorial...

...should be posted at every border entry point into Canada and as I previously commented those politicians who voted in favour of the private members bill and those people who support the deserters should be banned from using the Highway of Heros.

Peter Worthington: War ‘resisters’ run into a wall of resistance



The "Landing Zone" painted by John Wehrle, Vietnam, 1966.

On its second reading in the Commons, Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy’s Private Member’s Bill C-440, requiring the government to cease deportation proceedings and grant permanent residency to Americans who come to Canada rather than go to war, was beaten 143 – 136.

It was a bit of a surprise, given that polls show most Canadians are fed up with the war in Afghanistan. Even more supported the past Liberal government for not joining the U.S. war against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The Private Member’s bill which was originally introduced by Kennedy and seconded by NDP-er Bill Siksay, applied to those identified as “Iraq war resisters.”

Greatest support comes from aging Vietnam War draft dodgers who came to Canada. Many became productive Canadian citizens.

The Harper government has turned a cold shoulder to Americans who came here to escape going to Iraq and Afghanistan, and who call themselves conscientious objectors.

There’s a qualitative difference been Vietnam draft dodgers and today’s so-called “war resisters.” The draft dodger didn’t want to go to Vietnam, didn’t like the army, but since there was the draft (conscription) it was lump it, or leave the country.

“War resisters,” is a polite word for “deserter.” These are people who joined the U.S. army for whatever reason, and then decided they didn’t want to go to Iraq (or Afghanistan), or to return to the war zone, so decided to conscientiously object – not in their country, but a neighboring country.

Color it anyway you like, the bottom line is they ran away. In any army, “desertion” is an offence. If these Americans who are now seeking permanent residence in Canada truly oppose the idea of being in the army, why did they enlist in the first place?

Some sought an education or trade, and thought it was easy money. Others may have joined in a fit of patriotism after 9/11— and then changed their mind. Some went to Iraq the first time, didn’t like it, and deserted when they were ordered back for a second tour.

Some justify their actions by calling it an illegal war, and that they don’t want to kill innocent civilians. Pretty weak.

Those who think wars are stupid and unnecessary, and that soldiers are brutes who kill innocent people, do not usually join the army. Those who join the army and change their mind, should have the courage to endure the consequences. It is not bravery to run away and oblige a neighboring country to give asylum, against the wishes of a democratic ally.

So-called war resisters are not conventional refugees. They don’t face a death penalty or lifetime in prison if they are deported. Their lives are not in danger.

There may be individual cases among those fighting deportation, who deserve Canada’s generosity. But a blanket approval would be to insult and scorn thousands of our own citizens who join the army, and re-sign when their original contract expires, and endure repeated tours in Afghanistan.

Polls can be misleading. Many who say they support sanctuary for “war resisters” and/or “conscientious objectors,” might not be so quick to voice approval of “deserters” or “cowards.”

Bill C-440 seems another ploy to re-focus Canadian values, and in a way dishonors those who don’t like war, but do what they see as their duty and live up to their word. That’s what courage is. And that’s how 143 MPs voted last Wednesday.

National Post

Peter Worthington is the founding editor of the Toronto Sun and a regular contributor to FrumForum.com, where this originally appeared.

...from the Blogs

War Deserters Not Welcome
Gerard Kennedy's dream of making Canada a sanctuary for international war deserters died yesterday in the House of Commons. Too many of his colleagues skipped out of work early that his bill died on the floor. It would appear that Gerry doesn't have much influence over the Liberal caucus. Gerard had previously said "I am honoured to speak to a bill that requires the Conservative government t...


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Thursday, September 30, 2010

If Canada Is Attacked We Know of 136 Politicians Who Would Run For The Hills...

U.S. military deserters not saved by Liberal bill


By BRYN WEESE, Parliamentary Bureau

A Liberal private member’s bill to grant U.S. military deserters permanent residency in Canada died at second reading Wednesday by a vote of 143 to 136.

Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Iggy, Kennedy And Other Supporters Should Be Banned...

...from driving on the Highway Of Heros!


National Post editorial board: Making Canada a haven for deserters


Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has thrown his support behind a private member’s bill from Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy. The bill, slated for a second-reading vote on Wednesday, would permit U.S. soldiers opposed to the war in Iraq to seek refuge in Canada from their sworn duty in the United States armed forces.

To say the least, Mr. Ignatieff’s support is hypocritical. He was one of the world’s leading academic supporters for the American invasion in 2002. In his 2004 book The Lesser Evil: Political Ethics in an Age of Terror, he not only justified such pre-emptive wars against rogue states, but also condoned coercive forms of interrogation that many Liberals believe are really torture. How does he square those earlier positions with his current support for giving shelter to soldiers who are running away from fighting the war on terror?

Mr. Kennedy’s bill, if left unamended, would make Canada a haven not only for American deserters, but deserters from around the world. Any soldier, whether from a country’s regular army or a ragtag militia, who objected to the fight he was being sent into, could escape to Canada and stay here permanently, so long as the battle he was fleeing was unapproved by the United Nations.

According to the United Nations, there are currently 27 active wars or conflicts around the world. Almost none have UN approval. Indeed only one – the war in Afghanistan – has anything approaching Security Council sanction. And there are those who argue the Afghan mission has changed so drastically that even it no longer qualifies as UN-endorsed.

Would Mr. Ignatieff welcome an American GI who objected to being part of the surge in Afghanistan? Canadian soldiers who similarly shirked their duties there would be subject to arrest. The passage of Mr. Kennedy’s bill might well establish a situation in which immigration officials were required to give more protection to American deserters than our own conscientious objectors would have.

We suspect both Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Ignatieff would insist the former’s private member’s bill would never sanction such amnesty for Americans being sent to Afghanistan. Still, it’s not hard to imagine American deserters showing up at our border, claiming the Afghan campaign is immoral and insisting we take them in. Many of the same crusading lawyers representing the approximately 40 Iraq-war deserters already here would no doubt be only too happy to use Mr. Kennedy’s law, if passed, to advocate for similar rights for future Afghan-war deserters.

It is also worth noting that America officially ended combat operations in Iraq on August 31. Would any deserters who showed up after Mr Kennedy’s bill became law qualify to use its provisions? Is his bill anything more than one more snide, symbolic gesture to reaffirm that liberals around the world hated George Bush?

The current Obama administration isn’t likely to welcome a purported ally taking this action either, since it implies current policies – not just Mr. Bush’s – warrant Americans running out on military obligations they willingly signed up for. (There is no longer a draft to dodge. Any American seeking refuge here willingly enlisted.)

Mr. Kennedy’s bill is nothing more than an attempt to keep fighting the last culture war. And Mr. Ignatieff should be ashamed for supporting it.







Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/28/national-post-editorial-board-kennedys-bill-would-make-canada-a-haven-for-deserters-from-around-the-world/#ixzz10uqP5MCy

Sunday, July 18, 2010

But Not A Right For Which These Advocates Are Willing To Fight...

...and put themselves in imminent danger from roadside bombs, suicide bombers, etc. 

7.17.2010

demand public inquiry into g20: rallies across canada today


Rallies, demonstrations and other creative protest events are taking place in many Canadian cities today, as we continue to demand a full public inquiry into the government and police response to the G20 protests.

There are events planned in: Bancroft (Ontario), London, Montreal, Nelson, Niagara Falls, Ottawa, Peterborough, Quebec City, St. John's, Toronto, Vancouver and Winnipeg.

Information about local events is here on the Facebook page. Let's not let this fade away. It's too important. 
 

Friday, July 09, 2010

Where Will They Flee If Canada Is Attacked...

...there is no draft in the United States so it is assumed they volunteered and if circumstances arose that caused the reason for them volunteering to change then they should of stayed and suffered the consequences of break their word.

We Move To Canada writes:

war resister hinzman decision gives "new hope, but it shouldn't have come to this"

Wonder Women asks:

"Sincerely held beliefs"???!

I thought to be a refugee, you had to at least be fleeing from a place where you faced, I don't know, danger or persecution?
And who the &*@$% joins the army if they have "moral and religious beliefs against participating in war"?
There is something seriously wrong with this country.

 ...A PEACE paid for by those who continue to travel the Highway Of Heroes in Canada and those who gave their lives in the United States and other members of the UN.

 

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Let's Introduce A Private Member's Bill In Parliament...

...when a Canadian soldier dies in combat it would automatically cause the immediate deportation of a deserter from the US armed forces.

U.S. deserter apeals deportation in Federal Court

Latest Canadian casualty remembered as talented soldier

 

Saturday, April 24, 2010

A Valid Comment...

...and if I was putting my life on the line I would also like to know why my country is not more pro-active in sending deserters home to meet their obligations.

Thursday, January 14, 2010

Pink With A Tinge Of Yellow? They Probably Support US Deserters

Adrian MacNair: Code Pink's assault on common sense
Posted: January 13, 2010, 2:51 PM by NP Editor
Filed under: Full Comment,Adrian MacNair

You may have noticed this article in the Calgary Herald in December, about the antiwar organization “Code Pink”. After 7 years of opposition to the war in Afghanistan, they finally got around to actually visiting the country, whereupon they learned that the overwhelming majority of women there do not, in fact, support a withdrawal of foreign troops from their country, as had been assumed by Code Pink.

They expected feminists in Afghanistan to support their own demands, never realizing their position was counterproductive to the aims of women in Afghanistan. It would seem logical that a fundamental step for Code Pink, the Herald authors wrote, would be to consult the people who live in the country on whose behalf they advocate, in order to find out what their actions might mean for those affected by it. The article continued:

“Code Pink’s modus operandi is symptomatic of a western feminism that is not rooted in values of global solidarity, but is self-interested, insular and shamefully relativist. It is based on tribalism and rejects internationalist values. In this feminism, emancipation is only for western women — not for women in places like Afghanistan.”

Code Pink has a history of being on the wrong side of democracy, solidarity, and feminism, not only by undermining the mission in Afghanistan which fights against a brutally repressive Islamist group of gender apartheidists, but also in their support of anti-Israeli organizations and terrorist groups.

Monday, December 21, 2009

There Is One Salient Point Not Discussed In The Present Debacle...

The second amendment to the United States Constitution is arguably the most contested US right. It states that people have "the right to keep and bear arms." It does not however allow for an individuals right to not bear arms. December 21, 2009 - 6:09am

http://www.blackhatmedia.ca/index.php?pr=War_Resisters

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Face Reality! We Are Canadian....

....we send our sons and daughters to die on foreign shores while at the same time we give cowards and deserters, who volunteered to fight on those same foreign shores, the full protection of our legal system.

Global hysteria, a growth industryFace
Posted: October 19, 2009, 3:30 PM by NP Editor

Gerry Nicholls' Libertas Post has an article by Martin Masse, originally carried in Le Quebecois Libre, about the global boom in the hysteria industry. It's a must read for anyone still cowering in their closet for fear of catching bird flu on the way to their Y2K bunker.

An excerpt:

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