Monday, March 05, 2007

Before You Vote On Changing The Form Of Government

Make sure you have ALL the facts. Can we afford the cost of pacifying fringe parties so they can get a spot at the trough? Will we be better served by a group that would have to form coalitions to get legislation passed.

Citizens' assembly confronts true art of politics

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

good point. One that should be brought to everyone's attention. Because if any votes are being spit, it's the left. The NDP, and the greens. If they gave up on the fringe, the tories would get their asses kicked.

publicize further.

Anonymous said...

First of all Electoral Reform isn't changing the form of government. It is changing the way the government is elected. Some form of Proportional Representation (PR) is long overdue in our democracy. We have been working with this archaic first-past-the-post (FPTP) (or plurality voting) system since our country was born.

What I want to see is a government that is elected with the number of seats in proportion to the number of votes the party gets. If this produces a minority government then so be it. This is what the people want (as their voting implies). If everybody believed that Party X was the best party then they would vote for that party and they would be happy with a majority. However, to have a false majority as our FPTP electoral system forces on us just means that we are getting a government that we didn't vote for. Check out the Wikipedia.org page on FPTP voting.

FPTP voting also tends to push the system towards a two-party system (as in Canada and the US) and relegates smaller parties to the shadows. Then we spend all our votes strategically voting to prevent the worst party from staying in power, or getting into power. In our last federal election having to vote between two very bad choices I think lead to a lot of disillusionment among voters.

If we do have minority governments then coalitions will be the proper order for things. Our elected officials will have to moderate their bills to get them passed and they won't lead the country in directions that we citizens don't want them to lead it. It will dampen the excesses of radical politicians.

Finally, the NDP and Greens are by no stretch of the imagination "fringe". Millions of Canadians voted for these parties. What a conversion to PR would do is to make the situation better for all voters. Keep in mind that both the Liberals and the PC have been the victims of false majorities in the past.

/ASA

Anonymous said...

First of all Electoral Reform isn't changing the form of government. It is changing the way the government is elected. Some form of Proportional Representation (PR) is long overdue in our democracy. We have been working with this archaic first-past-the-post (FPTP) (or plurality voting) system since our country was born.

What I want to see is a government that is elected with the number of seats in proportion to the number of votes the party gets. If this produces a minority government then so be it. This is what the people want (as their voting implies). If everybody believed that Party X was the best party then they would vote for that party and they would be happy with a majority. However, to have a false majority as our FPTP electoral system forces on us just means that we are getting a government that we didn't vote for. Check out the Wikipedia.org page on FPTP voting.

FPTP voting also tends to push the system towards a two-party system (as in Canada and the US) and relegates smaller parties to the shadows. Then we spend all our votes strategically voting to prevent the worst party from staying in power, or getting into power. In our last federal election having to vote between two very bad choices I think lead to a lot of disillusionment among voters.

If we do have minority governments then coalitions will be the proper order for things. Our elected officials will have to moderate their bills to get them passed and they won't lead the country in directions that we citizens don't want them to lead it. It will dampen the excesses of radical politicians.

Finally, the NDP and Greens are by no stretch of the imagination "fringe". Millions of Canadians voted for these parties. What a conversion to PR would do is to make the situation better for all voters. Keep in mind that both the Liberals and the PC have been the victims of false majorities in the past.

Maybe all of us should make sure we have all the facts.

/ASA

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